Mercenaries Guild

As above...i can't download any thing new about that hud?
http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=6555.60 (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=6555.60)

http://interpsy.com/nt/oticz/ (http://interpsy.com/nt/oticz/)
/\/\/\/\ the website does not state anything new?

Since k-otic is mg...
If this hud is updated?...thank you for your work,effort,time,etc  :D



 

Hmm, looks a bit misleading :)

Their download page lists "Older Versions" but it actually does download the latest version (1.8.1 as far as I know)

It's here (http://interpsy.com/nt/oticz/current/oticz_v1.8.1.zip)

I do like the hud, wish I had more time to play ;)

Don't we actually host a webpage on mg.net for it as well?

Why doesn't the hud work on the Dev server?

'Cause the code for UI stuff changed and all custom HUDs will need to be reprogrammed. I recall K-otic got a start on reprogramming his but did not finish.

We should get on him about that then shouldn't we? =D

It'd be nice if he did it, but most of the time, nagging people about things actually serves no other purpose than to annoy them.

Very true Garoth... Also do you know how to find your screenies for trem? I've tried the homepath and still haven't found them. Would Oticz hud affect this since it saves screenies to the hud? Help appreciated.

To find them:
Linux: ~/.tremulous/fs_game/screenshots
Mac: ~/Library/Application\ Support/Tremulous/fs_game/screenshots
Windows: C:\Documents and Settings\\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous\fs_game\screenshots

No, it doesn't affect where they are, the fs_game of the server you are playing on does. For example, some servers have base2, base3, etc.

That should do it ;)

Thanks Death. We still need to have a get together on Trem  btw.

Gah it says path cannot be found. And I'm on windows.

If you copy and pasted that path, then you should know that there's two slashes between "Documents and settings" and "Local settings", which would confuzzle the computer.

the two slashes shouldn't cause any problems, the lack of a username between them is a problem though >.>

Ahhaahahaha that would make sense Kev thank you...  Nope still can't find the specified path. -.-

EDIT: Found after complaining on IRC thanks for help.

Not to mention lack of an fs_game.
If you didn't notice from that fail, I don't run Windows, I did that from memory.

Nice Death. And yes you have a mac last time I checked which is fail if you have that lame 1 click mouse.

Not really... you can easily use any mouse with a mac, and you can emulate other mouse behaviour with hotkeys pretty easily.

My mouse has 5 buttons, thank you very much ;)

You better have the extra 2 set to crouch and medi.

Three buttons is enough for anybody, you... you fancy person!

Naw I couldn't imagine playing Trem without a 5 pt mouse its way more handy.

Is not. [/jealousy]

Lol seriously you should try it.. It'll improve game play soooo much.

Send me yours, then, and I'll try it.
Did I mention I just installed the new HUD? I think it's great.

Personally I think otic has one of the better HUD's out right now. I'd like to test some others if people know any link me please. =)

List of huds with links: http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=5481.0

Thank you Tyranis. Hope they meet up to my standards.

Was that smart answer not even worth a comment?

I was wondering how did K-Otic get a chat  menu ?

Its just a bunch of vstr's and binds.
Version 2.0 is out, you can download it from here. (http://www.mercenariesguild.net/exclamation/otic/)
Please report any bugs.

Oy, I'm sorry otic/ex. I didn't realize I was launching this semipure thing to break everything like right when you made a 2.0. Bad timing. :(

k-otic the hud is fantastic.
I tried doing the chat menu in other hud but it did not work  :-\
The menus is very nice.

I've installed it myself. Unfortunately, I won't be on for a while, because I've discovered a new hobby: Modding Oblivion.

Ummm I forgot all the HUD commands how do I unistall/install it again?

It's in the readme, but if you put the folerds in the right places:

\exec ui\oticz_install.cfg

\exec ui\oticz_uninstall.cfg

This is my first dip into oticz hud, and I'm pleased. I was mad at the microscopic text, delving deep into your code to find how to change it, then I just went into options like I was supposed to!

The one thing I miss is the main menu/server browser music.

I'll have to agree there.
The music could get annoying, but it was as much a part of Tremulous as the Lucifer Cannon.

Boo, play your own background music.

Lol yeah they are thanks 3of12

That, my friend, is just like saying
"Build your own Lucifer Cannon out of these leftover parts"
The title sequence was chosen for a reason, you know.

What? That makes no sense! Also, how can you not play your own background music? I always have music playing :)

I'm having a hell of a time with this HUD now...every time I restart trem, it doesn't keep the HUD, and if I leave a server, it doesnt keep the HUD. And the text always stays small no matter what now :'( I think this may have started after visiting PT yesterday.

Agreed. Bad analogy. And yes, from my experience in open source development, it probably was chosen because one of:

1) Someone someone knew was sort of okay at music and they felt like that person should do it. It being a short loop.
2) They couldn't find anything better and someone not really qualified slapped something together. Music / sound effects for OSS games don't come around too too much.

What I can be pretty sure of, though, is that it was not "chosen for a reason" -- it most certainly was something that they had on hand, could use freely, and was "pretty good." Well, I mean, unless they chose it for the reasons that it was on hand and pretty good.

I for one do not miss it, and it interferes with playing your own background music -- which is not only nothing alike to building a lucifer cannon, but also is customized to your tastes.

As a side note, it seems the developers were considerably more focussed on making the actual game. The title screen / menus / server browser leave a lot to be desired. I agree completely with their decision.

I'm not sure what the problem is. Turn off the music volume in the GUI one time and you never hear it again. It's not like Trem has other music to where this setting does anything but remove that particular music.

Tremfusion(gasp, the unspeakable fork) is planning to overhaul the menus and music.

I do turn off the music in the menus.

Hell, I'd LIKE to build a lucifer cannon.

But yeah, the music was bad. It was more for the sake of a good argument than anything else.

Oh. Sorry then.

And I agree, building a Lucifer Cannon out of "spare parts" would be very awesome. I would very much enjoy one day being so proficient with computers that I can build and program gadgets. Sounds like a good time.

Nothing to apologise for. It was what I wanted, after all.

So when can we get this HUD ported to the svn menu file format?

Amanieu>? SVN menu file format? i don't really get it :P

AS like the  crosshair painsaw, can we add external materia to huds?
eg.  "work/muip/newcrosshair.tga"       ? like "gfx/etc/etc.tga"  ?

Don't worry. I don't get all that stuff either.

To answer Amanieu: they're already working on porting Oticz to the new format, and from what I understand, are nearly finished.