I am wondering.  I downloaded a 4gb dvd image for debian powerpc version.  Is it worth it.  I burned it onto a dvd.  But now I found I will have to re partion my harddrive and that will be a pain since my dad has like 13 gigabytes of family photos.  And my harddrive is only 40 gigabytes.  I want to leave Mac os 10.3 on a different partition, but yah.  It is a pain.  All of this is on a old titanium powerbook that has a toshiba dvd/cd burn and a 40 gigabyte hard drive.  I can duel boot with linux and mac os x if I install linux, but I don't want to spend the time doing all this stuff if It isn't worth it.  Will it run faster then mac os x?  Will it run trem Better?  I know most of the trem servers are running linux, so is it better.  Thank you for your time.

Yes, yes, yes, and you're welcome.

I Installed Ubuntu Edgy on my laptop the other day, it was far easier than any windows install ever was.

However, if you need to do all that and it *may* not work, you might want to try a live cd first, just to see if it would work.  I don't know of one for mac hardware, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't one somewhere

Do you have a backup of your Dad's family pictures?  I have ripped my CD collection to mp3 and ogg formats.  It is 12Gb in size.  I used to have one copy of it.  One hard drive failure caused me hours and hours of re-ripping more than a hundred CDs.  I now have 3 copies of it as I really don't want to lose it.  A good external usb drive would do the trick.  However, repartitioning a hard drive isn't as much of an arcane science, like it once was so you should be ok.

After going through my laundry list of paranoid rantings, I can say that I think that linux IS the shisnit.  You can do whatever you dream up, and most likely someone else has already dreamed it up and implemented it.  You can use their solution, or build your own.  That goes for just about anything you can do on a computer.

On my intel laptop, I get longer battery life with Linux (Ubuntu Edgy) and I just seem to have fewer problems.

Linux, IMO, is overall the best system, but here are some points:

- The base system should have around 5 gigs of space to work with (can anyone dispute that? Not exactly sure)
- Your home directory would be better off on another partition
- Ubuntu is Debian + 1 and would much better suit a new person coming to Linux. I would recommend it over Debian any day, and it is what most of the Linuxers in MG use.

- It may run things faster, yes, if your hardware works properly.

- Your hardware might not work
- PPC Linux is not perfect. For example, there is no Flash, since Macromedia/Adobe have not made a PPC-Linux-Firefox flash thing. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was the state of affairs last I saw)

For me, I would try it, since I prefer Linux over OSX by far, but it's up to you. You will have problems and you will have to suffer to fix some of them, but most if not all will be fixable. Furthermore, go with Ubuntu. If for no other reason, it has a 'live cd' version, which means that you can run it as a trial without installing it to the hard drive (runs from ram and cd drive). Then, if you find it works or does not work, you can do as you like, and the live cd has a button on the desktop that installs the permanent version. (BTW, the live cd is much slower and should not be used day-to-day, mostly only as a trial.)

It is up to you. Personally, I love Linux+Ubuntu.

Thanks ok I am now downloading linux Ubuntu.  I hope I can figure this out.  If I need help, I can get help from my A+ teacher.  He is cool.  I Tried Tremulous mapping on mac os x.  I got it to work, but it doesn't work very good.  Maybe it will work better on linux.

It most certainly will work better with Linux, here is why:

It always annoyed me when people ignorantly short formed 'gtkradiant' to just 'gtk.' GTK+ is a development toolkit, developed on Linux, for the program called Gimp and for the desktop environment, GNOME (which you will be using with Ubuntu). GTK+ handles all the graphical stuff you see when it comes to buttons, images, text areas, check boxes, etc. All that is GTK+ and this uniformity is why GNOME can be themed to effectively. The program, Radiant, was made using GTK (Gimp Toolkit).

Therefore, it runs very well on Linux (it is a Linux toolkit, the most used one in my observation, and also the most pleasant to use in my opinion), and is almost specifically designed for it.

Always back up, but you won't be disapointed 

Also, since i've never seen someone not ask, hold down C when booting to boot from the CD when you're ready to install.

Huh? Hold down c?

What are you talking about?

Is that a Mac thing? To boot from cd you need to hold down c?

last time i installed on one, yea...
then again, that was a G3 imac

Yah Macs alow easy multi booting.  Hold down option(same as alt) and you can pick a partition to boot from.  And in mac os you can pick the operating system if it is in the same partition. 
Mac PWNS Windows.
Mac >Windows<Linux.
Palm Pilot OS>Windows.
  ;D
 
I have pretty much only used macs untill this year, because this year I have A+.  I like Mac os x much more than Windows.  Now I am  going to attemp to install Linux.  I will have to resize the partion, which will be a pain.  I will have to boot up with a Mac os x install disk.  Right?  Then I will run Disk Utilty and resize the partition.  Then istall Linux.  Then be able to Duel boot just by restarting.  Ohhhhhhh. And if I get one of those cool new intel macs.  Then I will be able to TriBoot.  With linux, Mac os x,  and last and the least windows. 
Ps.  Anyone else on a mac based Computer?

No, no.

Put in the Linux CD, then you have to make sure that you are booting from CD -- hold c or change the BIOS setting or whatever you need to do.

Then, boot from the CD. You will be taken into what is called Live mode, where you are already running Linux, just from the CD. This is a test kind of thing, where you can see how well it will run when installed. If it doesnt run... well... you could try to fix it, or give up.

Anyways, there will be an "Install" icon on the desktop. This icon, when clicked, will guide you through an automated install sequence, which will install Linux while youre already running Linux. This program INCLUDES A DISK PARTITIONER, which is GUI and very easy to use, dont need to fret at all. If that is not satisfactory, the Live CD also has a slightly more complete program called gPartEd. I suggest that you just follow the install procedure, it is very strait forward and you will catch on how to do it all. I do suggest that you do it manually though. The automatic is good, but might not care about your Mac data.

Then, you should be able to reboot, it should bring up Grub instantly (bootloader), which gives you a menu between Linux and Mac. Select which you like, hit enter, and it boots that OS.

I'm not sure Tremulous will run on PPC Linux.

why wouldn't it?
as long as you can get all the graphics drivers...

Programs have to be made for Linux, for a certain processor. If that is not done, a new compile would have to be made. However, since Trem is in the Edgy repos, it likely would be able to install a copy. If not, it might run anyways, or it might need to be compiled.

I dont think that the x86 version of Trem would run on a ppc computer though.

(If you did have one of the cool new mactels though...)

I got the live cd working.  That was easy. I just can't rezize my partition.  Lame.  Oh well, Ill continue to work on it.  And grades.  Didn't study for test and I failed it.  Ouch.  D+ in math because we have only had one test this quarter.  Oh and I didn't do some homework.  I am temperarily grounded, at least untill it is a  A.  I hope I can get it that high.